Home; Our Practice; Services; What to expect. Bob Benge and his brother The Tail are described as the nephews of John Watts and great-nephews of Old Tassel, leading to the conclusion that their mother was the sister of John Watts. I just was googling Attacullaculla's decendents and came across the name "Nancy Ward". So DNA isn't going to tell you if you're Indian or not. brother of Talonteskee, born about 1770. I am a direct descendant of Grasshopper and William David McDaniel. Thank you. Slavery was as deep a stain for the Cherokees who held slaves as it was for the European/American slave owners -- including governors and presidents -- for whom the Cherokee tried to assimilate in the mistaken hope that such assimilation would allow them to keep their homelands. So no way to try to connect him to anything true or untrue. I have seen you on my tree links for years. obviously I can only go by information in others trees. I don't see a purpose to it. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. Does anyone else connect to this tree, or have info on this line that they'd be willing to share? I believe he should be detached from Wurteh. All the info I have matches, and I learned even more of the story. Of the . It can only tell you if you have a percentage of native american DNA. Love finding your site! Cat Vann, I am related to amatoya moytoy chota, agustin chota is one of my great grandmothers through my great grandmother birdie hazel rogers if you have asny more info i would really car to know. -KARYN BISHOFALSO DO ANY OF THESE NAMES LINE UP WITH YOURS?WHICH NAME DID YOU OBTAIN ENROLLMENT FROMchief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoy********su-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperMARY MCDANIELWILLIAM MCDANIEL********anuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me). There was no such person as Mary Bluesky Cornstalk and the name of Parker's second wife, Mary, is unknown. Circumstantial evidence supports this marriage. As with most early Cherokee women, almost nothing is known of the woman called "Wurteh Watts," the mother of Bob "The Bench" Benge. So, if anyone can shed any light on my dilemma I would be appreciative. There is some circumstantial evidence that he was the father of John Jolly. The last relative I have who was on the last rolls was David Hadley born in 1900 in the Cherokee Nation. Also her parents were William David MCDANIEL b: 1726 in TNMother: Granuaille(*), (**) Su-Ki MOYTOY HOPPER b: 1725 in Chota, TN.. Granuaille Su-Ki MOYTOY HOPPER's parents were Chief Kana-gatoga MOYTOY, CALLED HOPPER b: 1690 in Upper Hiwasee, ChotaMother: Su-Gi (CHEROKEE, WOLF CLAN) b: 1695 in Chota, TN. even with all of the info, it means nothing to CN because they were not enrolled during the 7 years they require. "Working with Elizabeth Watts was an absolute pleasure. He was the father of Matoaka "Pocahontas" Powhatan. What is your Mother & grandfathers name? If you were an Anonymous give me the time and date and I will be glad to remove it. I had been told through my family history we were "par" Cherokee and I knew the line it came from. I have no date for her death. You are so right Hannah. its a frustrating process and seems to be a dead end. Love this, thank you for writing it. I have since figured out that I may not be descendant of Bluesky, do of Moytoy II of Tellico. That would be part English. I was so excited when I saw my mom, that was the first thing I told her and she blurted out well you are on my side too. This is a magnificent summary of all the research youve done, Kathie! Elizabeth Watts, a Cherokee woman whose mother was born along the Trail of Tears, described the trek westward. Deborah Whaley and Elizabeth Foreman. The old cherokee tribe also had numerous links to kentucky.other tribes and early euro traders had to pay the cherokee kings lease and trade fees for being in cherokee territory much like the king powhatan era. In my line Tharp marries a female Vance. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770.Her mother was a sister of "Old Tassel", "Doublehead" and "Pumpkin Boy". 1,645 followers. My ancestor Richard G.Paris is buried in Paris Cemetery Clinton County Indiana(1789-1845). Does this mean that if I had a great-uncle that signed Dawes, I can apply to be a part of the Western Cherokee nation? For a complete explanation, go to http://www.parkeradkins.wordpress.com, this is very interesting.i have been researching my family on ancestry.com and as i have always known i was of indian descent, i just recently discovered i am related to amatoyoa moytoy,ka na fire, sookie ?, i have not been able to trace back any further,but maybe someone out there can be of assistance. I just started this ancestry.com. I'm a descendent of stalking turkey. With one simple test, you can discover your genetic origins and find family you never knew you had. Elizabeth was Cherokee. A deposition from Trader Robert Due/Dews from 1777 stated that Old Tassel was the uncle of John Watts Young Tassel. ( Colonial and State Records of North Carolina, Volume 22, Pages 995-1005, Deposition of Robert Dews concerning relations with Native Americans, January 22, 1777. I know grandfather is Tecumseh. James Vann, William Springston, John Shepherd and Edward Adair: . Family connections all wrong, dates way off, and no proofs, which is worse than no website.http://www.dagulaku.com/Wappa' e-shiquechi' nika. There is no document that connects them at any time. Raven Hop Moytoy is my 8th Great Grandmother, I get confused after that. I am related to Amatoya through his son, Old Hop, Sookie Hopper, Catherine McDaniel, Mary Elvira Hensley, Mary Elvira Ward, to Lille Belle Holland, who is my 3rd great grandmother! Old Hop went to live with his Aunt and Uncle Amatoya Moytoy after the death of his parents. 5107126039. White Wing's son Richard Adkins is my 5th gr-grandfather. Hello family! I believe that could be possible. It is what it is. His pension application (images on Fold3 at. ) God Bless You . I do however wish to validate the claim that someone in the same line, yet closer on my tree, (my 4x great grandparents) were of Cherokee origin. She would interview me for multiple news stories and her reporting skills were excellent. I have detached Robert Due, Bloody Fellow, John Jolly, and Obediah Benge from Wurteh. Wurteh "Betsy" Watts,was the mother of Chief John Jolly, Chief Robert Benge, Tahlonteeskee Bloody Fellow and Sequoyah. Does anyone have any information of direct descendants of Moytoy I or II that are on the Dawes Final Rolls? According to my family tree results Amatoya Moytoy is my 8th great grandfather, so it seems we may actually be distantly related. This comment has been removed by the author. They had four children, 3 boys and a girl. BTW, it was Doublehead who was killed for selling off Cherokee lands. I am also a descendant of Amatoya Moytoy. My information shows: Nancy Ward -- Tame Doe Raven -- Nancy Moytoy -- Chief Amatoya Moytoy. Actually The carpenter family can be traced back to people in English Parliment and with in some Bourbon's in French court. I went to the Research center at Tahlequah last week but, was looking for my husband who is enrolled and wants to find out what clan he comes from. . Vann grabbed one small boy and pulled him onto his saddle, but Doublehead killed the boy with an axe. Would like to clean up profile of Avery Vann, More Vann clean-up - Joseph Vann, husband of Wah-li, What is the obituary for William David Watts, Birth 1777, Found Someone's Old Family Bible - William Zenas Watts (1846 - 1903). Benge Fielder. John Riley. He died in 1867 and was buried at White Oak, Arkansas. Charles Washington Starr. I'm glad to hear someone has a DNA match you are related to Moytoy ,I started to give up hope, some articles I read was making it seem like Moytoy didn't exist and there was no evidence of any Moytoy, could you please please send me what you have, anything about Moytoy, please my email is Starrbellababby@yahoo.com. If anyone has information on the wife of John Hester (b.1754, Bladen, NC- d. 1890, Bladen, NC) named Comfort ('born Cherokee') (b.1754, Robeson, NC-d.March 6, 1836, Bladen, NC) and can provide a primary source and/or solid secondary sources, that substantiates her Cherokee background, I WILL PAY FOR THAT INFORMATION. I have an early american ancestor named Comfort and one named Gladness, as well as one name Plenty. Was your grandfather by chance from the Roby Community in Chester County, TN 38340 or surrounding area? He was known as Standing Turkey Cornstalk the son of Big Turkey Cornstalk the grandson of Hokolesqua Opechan Cornstalk. Yes, some of Rich Joe Vann's slaves participated in the Slave Revolt. here are my direct lineal ancestors which have proved no avail. she was born in 1912 died 1983. her connection was through granny hopper,and thomas essary. For some, their families were ashamed of their indian heritage and made a point to hide it. I had assumed that meant John Forked Tail WATTS. All DOCUMENTED Cherokee. History can't be copyrighted. Do you have a Mary Evia Carter Essary? I am related to Chief Moytoy on my mothers side. Yet, I have seen people with as little as 1/500th blood quantum who inspire the spirits of their ancestors because they make being Cherokee a proud part of a their everyday life.". She serves as a night anchor of the 360 Perspective on KOAA. Her mother's name was Elizabeth Ah Ne Wa Kee Lucas birth-1784 Death-1822 Father's . But trying to find of there is a roll number. John "Old Forked Tongue" Watts (1/2 Blood Cherokee). James and his mother also descend from several of the old Cherokee warriors you noted in your vitriolic post, as do I, so if anyone should be ashamed, it's not me for my ancestors, but you for spreading ignorant, easily debunked lies. Judyann Kelley Townsend Billy Gene Kelley your father Susie Marie Kelley his mother Viola Ellsworth roberts her mother Violetta Elizabeth Clubb her mother John Thomas Brown her father Isham "Isom" Alexander Brown his father Isham Alexander "Cherokee Chief Sawney" Brown his father Naky ( Sarah Canoe ) Betesy Brown his mother Tai Ya Gansi Ni (Ts-yu-gns-n) Dragging Dragging Canoe" (Tatsi), Principal Chief Tatsi her father Attakullakulla (Little Carpenter) Onacona his father Amatoya Moytoy his father. Tail Sixkiller. I don't know anything about the other tribes, but if you have a relative on the Dawes Roll you can be enrolled as a Western Cherokee. . She joined the TV station in August 2016 and anchors the network's news on weeknights and also brings the 360 My line goes 'Phillips, Raper, McDaniel, Old Hop, Moytoy. Remember to check the name spelling and include any additional information you have. Hi I am descendant of Chief Moytoy. It runs on my dads side running through the Morgans. Can you please share with me the sources you are using to back the data on your Moytoy I? His research is very extensive and was/is on point with the information that was given to me. Teach us what a real Cherokee is, please. But, in tracing back this captured woman was to be a daughter of Chief Pigeon Moytoy. 1899. It is wonderful, if you know your family heritage or have stories of generations that came before you. I just did DNA and found out through matches and family tree that Im related to Moytoy. KARYNBISHOF10@GMAIL.COMh, Rosemary G would you email me a copy of you ancestry.com your proof of Moytoy existing, please and do you know of any marriage or birth certificates of any Moytoy existing? My name is June Hicks-Kilpatrick and my paternal grandmother, Mertie Parris' 5th great-grandfather was George Parris, who was the son of Richard Pearis and Pratchey. It is fantastic to know your culture. He is my 10th cousin 7x removed. And all the deuce dents on both Sides the McGees and Vann was denided clames. White Wing married Elijah Adkins. I am a descendant of Miss Amatoya Taminad-Trader Kanagaota Motoy and Chief Amahetia 'll Moytoy of Tellico. In September 1792, Watts assembled a large gathering of Cherokee and Muscogee warriors (which included some cavalry). ELIZABETH WATTS was born in 1751, at birth place, Alabama, to Chief John Trader Crunk Watts Watts (born Watts Cherokee) and WURTAGUA GI-YO-STI-KO-YO-HE Watts Cherokee (born Bird Clan). They are the parents of Henry Watts, born September 28, 1889; Sallie Martha, born June 28, 1892 . Remember the story of when James Vann caught a slave stealing food and burned him alive? The one is Oklahoma is closed to new members (How can a nation be closed to legitimate members of the nation? John Jolly had a white father, possibly Robert Due, and a Cherokee mother but nothing else is known of his parents. In fact, they're the majority now. I have found their entries on the Dawes Roll, but would like to know more about my G-grandmother Emma, as we believe she was of full-blood.Stephanie11, Tamara10, Roscoe Eugene9, JOHN8, YELL CLEMENT7, GEORGE W6, JAMES5 WARD, CATHERINE KATIE4 MCDANIEL, GRANNY3 HOPPER (Grasshopper), OLD HOP2 (Kanagatucko), A-MA-DO-YA1 MOYTOYAny help would be greatly appreciated! I do wish to obtain the desired info on these afore-named ancestors coming from 100% qualified and fully verifiable sources. No images were found for this exact name. Kharma, maybe. The same Joseph Vann who was sent in for the Transylvania Land Company by the Virginia banking firm of Isaiah Isaacs and Jacob Cohen to help illegally purchase Kentucky.

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